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Battery Terminal Replacement - Corrosion

Post by joe13 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:04 am

I removed the cover to my positive battery terminal recently and discovered quite a bit of corrosion. The easiest way to thoroughly remove it all was to disconnect the leads going to the terminal "housing"
and get it out in the open.
After cleaning I noticed that some of the clamp portion of the terminal was corroded away. Also the"wedge design" retention blocks had been fused together making it difficult to re-tighten properly.
Since all of the connections either plug in or are lug terminal attached to this terminal/housing, I called Ford for a replacement. Guess what? you cannot purchase simply a positive battery terminal or the plastic housing it is mounted in. You have to buy the entire positive cable/harness assembly for over $300.
I am livid! I would pay a reasonable price for the terminal and housing, but I refuse to spend that kind of money especially when the cables all disconnect from the assembly and are in good shape.
Anyone else have a similar issue? Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Re: Battery Terminal Replacement - Another Gotcha!

Post by jmr061 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:27 am

That's how manufacturers are these days. Things are sold as a unit and you can't buy individual pieces. May have to go junk yard searching.
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Post by BillR » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:02 pm

joe13 wrote:I removed the cover to my positive battery terminal recently and discovered quite a bit of corrosion. The easiest way to thoroughly remove it all was to disconnect the leads going to the terminal "housing"
and get it out in the open.
After cleaning I noticed that some of the clamp portion of the terminal was corroded away. Also the"wedge design" retention blocks had been fused together making it difficult to re-tighten properly.
Since all of the connections either plug in or are lug terminal attached to this terminal/housing, I called Ford for a replacement. Guess what? you cannot purchase simply a positive battery terminal or the plastic housing it is mounted in. You have to buy the entire positive cable/harness assembly for over $300.
I am livid! I would pay a reasonable price for the terminal and housing, but I refuse to spend that kind of money especially when the cables all disconnect from the assembly and are in good shape.
Anyone else have a similar issue? Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Your description leaves a lot to the imagination, can you post a picture?

Why isn't this covered by your warranty?

If this is just the battery end of the cable you should be able to just cut it and replace the connector. Pop over to your local auto parts store, they should have a replacement connector you can purchase without buying the entire harness.
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Post by jmr061 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:30 pm

If his is the same setup as my 2013 it isn't something "normal" that a auto store will carry.

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Post by The Bone » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:43 pm

It is a good idea to inspect your battery terminals every oil change. I hate those covers on the battery they hide a leak in battery until it's to late and cost you $300. By the way you need a new battery because its leaking around the terminal and causing corrosion.

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Post by joe13 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:40 pm

Sorry that I don't have a pic to post. It is a very unusual positive battery terminal to be sure. Like Jason mentioned, it is not going to be found in any parts store. As far as not being covered under warranty, I was informed by the dealer service advisor that corrosion related damage is not covered. When I lifted the protective cover, I was looking at the worst corrosion of a battery terminal in my near 40 years of driving. Luckily, I believe that I caught it just in the nick of time. It started to eat away at the lower band of the clamp portion and it had temporarily fused the wedge blocks that provide the clamping action together. But after neutralizing the acid, I applied some spray protector along with the felt washers underneath both terminals. As the Bone mentioned, I'm going to be lifting that cover more frequently from now on!
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Post by Webmaster » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:24 pm

On my 96 T-Bird with a Motorcraft battery, I had one terminal that kept getting corrosion on it. So I discovered that it happens because the plastic seam around the post was leaking out whatever (acid, air?). I dabbed dielectric grease around that "crack" in the battery and it's been fine ever since (1+ yr). So, inspect your battery and if you see a seam in the plastic, just smearing on some grease could permanently solve the problem. The washers will get cruddy and gross, I'm not sure it the spray protectant will last forever, but I know putting grease on the spot around the terminal fixed it really well for me. It stopped the gases from escaping, which was ultimately the root cause.

The reason the dealer isn't going to sell you just a battery cable end is because Ford needs to ensure the integrity of the entire connection from one end to the other. There are so many variables when you just put an end on the cable. There could be corrosion inside the wire, it could loosen over time, the connection may not transfer as many amps as the factory one, etc. I would argue the best solution is to buy the OEM cable if you plan on keeping the car a long time.

I'm not sure if you're still under bumper-to-bumper warranty, but I guess you could always try another dealer to see if they would work with you. Or, contact Ford Customer Service who hangs out on this site: http://www.fordtaurus.net/forums/member ... ile&u=6904 (send them a PM)
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Post by FordCustomerService » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:21 am

joe13 wrote:I removed the cover to my positive battery terminal recently and discovered quite a bit of corrosion. The easiest way to thoroughly remove it all was to disconnect the leads going to the terminal "housing"
and get it out in the open.
After cleaning I noticed that some of the clamp portion of the terminal was corroded away. Also the"wedge design" retention blocks had been fused together making it difficult to re-tighten properly.
Since all of the connections either plug in or are lug terminal attached to this terminal/housing, I called Ford for a replacement. Guess what? you cannot purchase simply a positive battery terminal or the plastic housing it is mounted in. You have to buy the entire positive cable/harness assembly for over $300.
I am livid! I would pay a reasonable price for the terminal and housing, but I refuse to spend that kind of money especially when the cables all disconnect from the assembly and are in good shape.
Anyone else have a similar issue? Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Hi joe13,

I recommend you speak with the service manager at your Ford Dealer. He is in the best position to ensure a proper diagnosis, and will be able to provide available options and/or coverage for any work needed. Also, remember most repairs done at a Ford Dealer come with a 24 months/unlimited miles warranty.

You can schedule an appointment online here. Let me know the outcome.
Webmaster wrote:I'm not sure if you're still under bumper-to-bumper warranty, but I guess you could always try another dealer to see if they would work with you. Or, contact Ford Customer Service who hangs out on this site: http://www.fordtaurus.net/forums/member ... ile&u=6904 (send them a PM)
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Post by Souls Stryder » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:22 am

I've owned my 2013 for 9 months. When I changed the oil I noticed a little corrosion on the negative terminal. Popped the lid on the positive and found it filled with corrosion. When I washed off the debris, there wasn't enough metal on the bracket to connect to the terminal. Called two different ford dealers, both told me that absent the warranty (I have too many miles) I needed to buy the whole harness for $320. No choice in the matter so $350 later (tax) I am owner of a new wiring harness. I removed the small portion I needed from the harness, which oddly left out one of the required bolts (I salvaged the old one). 30 minutes later, I'm resetting all the ISYNC settings. Now I have 95% of a new wiring harness sitting in the garage after spending $350 to get a $10 part. Wow how low can ford go. Henry Ford is rolling over in his grave. I've been a Ford guy for 40 years, but Really Really disappointed with this one.

I have photos of the carnage, but too big to download. If anyone out there wants that remaining harness drop me a line.

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Post by 2011TAURUSSEL » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:26 am

I haven't had to replace anything yet but I do have a recommendation for preventative maintenance.

This was one of the first battery Preventative Maintenance items I do to all vehicles......


Your Local parts retailer in my case Advance or AutoZone near the counter they have the small packages of different compounds, batter terminal cleaner, protective grease, terminal grease. brake caliper grease. etc.....Mine as Terminal protective grease one package should do at least one battery (2 Terminals) if your a little more sparingly then you could get two vehicles worth of batteries. Also get a Terminal cleaner, normally in the battery aisle a foam spray that goes on pink but turns amber or gold after drying. Battery Brush that is two part one side a brush for the inside of the cables and the other side is for the battery posts.

1. Remove terminals

2. Clean both terminal posts and battery cable connections in accordance with the instructions.

3. Apply a fairly liberal coating of the protective grease on the terminal posts and the cable connectors.

4. Retighten battery.

5. There is one more optional step. With cables removed and while looking for the cleaner and brush there is a set of FELT washers to install underneath the connectors. They fit in between the bottom of the post and the connectors. They are red/Green I have no clue why tey werent red and black but I wasnt asked. Not an issue since there is no electrical connection on the felt just a protective piece of material.

I usually apply this protective grease 1-2 times a year. Fall and Spring and I have no corrosion on my battery terminals.

The old adage "A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" plays in here and fairly inexpensive.
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Post by 2011TAURUSSEL » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:39 am

I do agree with webmaster though being a 2013 it should not get corroded this quick unless you have some exposure to the elements that is out of the ordinary. Try a different dealer, sometimes that is all it takes if not then see what Deysha can do.
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2011TAURUSSEL wrote:I do agree with webmaster though being a 2013 it should not get corroded this quick unless you have some exposure to the elements that is out of the ordinary. Try a different dealer, sometimes that is all it takes if not then see what Deysha can do.
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Post by jmr061 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:00 am

Many of the newer ford vehicles require the purchase of the entire harness for battery cable issues. I think ford is slowly realizing this is a dumb idea as I have seen notices coming out slowly for the cables being broken into more "parts" for parts sales for various models.
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Post by tonyh2013 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:08 am

Having same issue with the Wife's car. Would not start so opened hood and checked battery connections. The positive cable was so bad you could not even see the post. Got it cleaned up with baking soda, but there is still some corrosion. Only has 19,000 miles on it so you would not think it would be that bad. Going to take it to the dealership to see what they say. Since the dealership did the last oil change you would think they would be checking things other than just changing the oil.

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Post by The Bone » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:56 am

If you have corrosion on any battery terminal than your battery is leaking and should be replaced. There is a problem if a lot of people are having the same issue with corrosion. Sounds like Ford got a batch of junk batteries and they should do something about it. I put those red and green felt rings on my battery terminals but even that shouldn't be necessary.

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Post by FordCustomerService » Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:08 am

tonyh2013 wrote:Having same issue with the Wife's car. Would not start so opened hood and checked battery connections. The positive cable was so bad you could not even see the post. Got it cleaned up with baking soda, but there is still some corrosion. Only has 19,000 miles on it so you would not think it would be that bad. Going to take it to the dealership to see what they say. Since the dealership did the last oil change you would think they would be checking things other than just changing the oil.
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Post by tonyh2013 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:16 am

FordCustomerService wrote:
tonyh2013 wrote:Having same issue with the Wife's car. Would not start so opened hood and checked battery connections. The positive cable was so bad you could not even see the post. Got it cleaned up with baking soda, but there is still some corrosion. Only has 19,000 miles on it so you would not think it would be that bad. Going to take it to the dealership to see what they say. Since the dealership did the last oil change you would think they would be checking things other than just changing the oil.
Welcome to the forum, tonyh2013! My name is Deysha with Ford Service and I’d like to get this escalated for you. Please, make an appointment with your dealer and PM me with your VIN, dealer, mileage, full name, and best daytime number.

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Thanks for the reply. Took it to dealership Thursday and the harness was replaced along with the battery all under warranty.

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Post by 2011TAURUSSEL » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:30 am

Sometimes it is in the dealer.....Glad it worked out for you!!! Hopefully Deysha didn't have to get too mean with the dealer.
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Post by johnniep » Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:48 am

you would think when you take your car to the dealer, pay for premium oil change\check list..you assume the do check it....or do they just only check off the list....depends on the dealer I guess
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Post by FordCustomerService » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:08 am

tonyh2013 wrote:Thanks for the reply. Took it to dealership Thursday and the harness was replaced along with the battery all under warranty.
That is great news, tonyh2013! Thank you for the update.
2011TAURUSSEL wrote:Sometimes it is in the dealer.....Glad it worked out for you!!! Hopefully Deysha didn't have to get too mean with the dealer.
LOL! No, I didn't have to, 2011TAURUSSEL. :lol:

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