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Water in doors

Post by TJ500 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:07 pm

Hello. After the massive rains assoicated with Hannah, I noticed my car was dripping water from the rear driver's side door two days later. I opened the door, removed the weather stripping from one clip only, pulled the clip out, and watched the water drain...........and drain...........and drain. Amazing how much was in there. I went to the dealer inquiring about it, and they stated it was a known issue with the Ford 500s. Whereas I have the extended warranty, I would have to pay $100; but, is it worth it? The TSB is 6-25-4, and if I saw it correctly looking over the dealer's shoulders, looks like it is a quick cut on the weather stripping and should only take 15 minutes.

Should I even bother bringing it in? Or if I do not, should I do this on my own? And if not, will it do any damage?

Anyone have any insight?

Thanks much!


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Re: Water in doors

Post by zundapp2 » Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:29 pm

Our car had the same problem. I used a paper punch to make a small hole in the weatherstrip and the problem was resolved. Took less than five minutes to find the punch and modify both doors. A charge of $100 sounds outrageous to me.

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Re: Water in doors

Post by deletedaccount » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:05 pm

What location on the bottom of the door did you punch your holes in? Towards the front or towards the back?

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Re: Water in doors

Post by taurus97 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:42 pm

tell the dealer, known issue + easy fix + Customer First should = NC if its such an easy fix...Talk to the service manager.

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Re: Water in doors

Post by TJ500 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:54 pm

Will do. Thanks all! :D

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Re: Water in doors

Post by zundapp2 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:14 am

There are two drain holes in each rear door; one front and one rear. The drains can be located by gently pulling the weatherstrip "flap" away from the door. I punched one hole by each drain.

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Re: Water in doors

Post by Stoker1 » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:15 pm

For my 500 the rear doors were worse than the front and it seemed most of the water drained out of the drain holes at the back of the door away from the hinge.

I used a Sears handi-snip to make short work of the cuts.
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Re: Water in doors

Post by Zeke » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:16 am

For the record: I think I hear a slosh in the right rear door.

We had a very dry summer.

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Re: Water in doors

Post by Zeke » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:26 pm

I'm guessing the problem is not in the weatherstrip itself, since that has two unobstructed holes. I'm reluctant to do it, but looks like I would have to pull out one or more of the clips attaching the weatherstrip to the metal. . . Like maybe they are blocked with debris.

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Re: Water in doors

Post by RStabb » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:44 am

RStabb wrote:Looks like Ford read this string and stole my fix. :wink:

TSB
06-25-4 WATER TRAPPED IN DOORS

Publication Date: November 30, 2006

FORD: 2005-2006 Five Hundred
MERCURY: 2005-2006 Montego


ISSUE:
Some 2005-2006 Five Hundred and Montego vehicles may experience water trapped in the doors causing a sloshing noise.

ACTION:
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

These doors are "wet" doors which allow water to flow through the inside of the door and then exit through one of two drain holes in the bottom of the door. If these drain holes become plugged, it is possible to restrict the escape of water that enters the interior of the door. The rocker seal at the bottom of the door may also restrict the escape of water from the door as well. (Figure 1)


Figure 1 - Article 06-25-4



Inspect the drain holes in doors and clear any obstruction that may be present. (Figures 2 and 3) With the door open and window raised, run water on the window glass and visually validate that water is flowing out of drain holes.


Figure 2 - Article 06-25-4




Figure 3 - Article 06-25-4


Trim notch in flange of rocker seal at drain holes to prevent any restriction of water flow. (Figures 4 and 5)


Figure 4 - Article 06-25-4




Figure 5 - Article 06-25-4


Close door and run water on outside window to confirm water is draining from doors.

WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
062504A 2005-2006 Five Hundred, Montego: Clear Drains, And Trim Water Seal, Includes Time To Verify Repair ONE DOOR 0.3 Hr.
062504B 2005-2006 Five Hundred, Montego: Clear Drains, And Trim Water Seal, Includes Time To Verify Repair TWO DOORS 0.4 Hr.
062504C 2005-2006 Five Hundred, Montego: Clear Drains, And Trim Water Seal, Includes Time To Verify Repair THREE DOORS 0.5 Hr.
062504D 2005-2006 Five Hundred, Montego: Clear Drains, And Trim Water Seal, Includes Time To Verify Repair ALL DOORS 0.7 Hr.

DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
5424630 07

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NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.

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Re: Water in doors

Post by 2FAST4U » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:47 pm

I've had my SEL for three years now and a few days ago, I noticed a "sloshing" noise when braking which came from the rear...I immediately remembered reading about this "water in doors" thread...Well, I found out that the problem which is pretty simple to resolve is caused by the rubber strip at the bottom of the doors which plug the drain holes when the doors are closed. Sooooo, I reached under the rear doors and simply removed the strips altogether. There was quite a good amount of water that drained out when I removed it, but I believe that the problem is now solved for good. :)

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Re: Water in doors

Post by PMCErnie » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:32 am

2FAST4U wrote:I've had my SEL for three years now and a few days ago, I noticed a "sloshing" noise when braking which came from the rear...I immediately remembered reading about this "water in doors" thread...Well, I found out that the problem which is pretty simple to resolve is caused by the rubber strip at the bottom of the doors which plug the drain holes when the doors are closed. Sooooo, I reached under the rear doors and simply removed the strips altogether. There was quite a good amount of water that drained out when I removed it, but I believe that the problem is now solved for good. :)

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Gee, Claude, wonder why Ford's engineers put in those nasty rubber strips?
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Re: Water in doors

Post by el_conquistador » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:02 pm

You put 'em back in afterward right?
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Re: Water in doors

Post by 2FAST4U » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:59 pm

el_conquistador wrote:You put 'em back in afterward right?
Nah...I threw them in the THRASH CAN! :? ...really.
PCMErnie wrote:Gee, Claude, wonder why Ford's engineers put in those nasty rubber strips?
Dunno... :shock: They're practically useless since the real weatherstripping is above them surrounding the doors... :roll:

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Re: Water in doors

Post by el_conquistador » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:18 pm

LOL okay, just wondering...
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Re: Water in doors

Post by 2FAST4U » Sat Dec 26, 2009 6:10 pm

Last time I said that I removed the rubber "strips" or"seals" from the rear doors...now I did the fronts...Problem gone for good... :wink: I still wonder what's their use??... I didn't notice any difference while driving since I took them off, not even the slightest wind noise!... :roll:

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Re: Water in doors

Post by wchain » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:50 pm

Drive the car in a rainstorm and see what happens....
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Re: Water in doors

Post by 2FAST4U » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:31 pm

wchain wrote:Drive the car in a rainstorm and see what happens....
I drove it in rain, snow and slush...with absolutely no problem!...and I don't see why there should be one!...A lot of cars come from the factory without them.. :roll:

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Re: Water in doors

Post by Zeke » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:30 pm

Any water in my doors this month would be solid state, so I think I'll save that problem for later. Now about that heated seat . . .

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Re: Water in doors

Post by FordFrankenstein » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:17 pm

Ok I'm from colorado I know rain:p we had a week straight of it, I've only got one strip on my car and it's the only problem with water retention, the rest leak out onto the sideskirt it drains properly, so I'll probably remove my last strip too :p

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